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We Fight, Get Beat, Rise, and Fight Again
About Nathanael Greene
The letter Greene wrote to Joseph Reed after Hobkirk's Hill contains one of the most quoted sentences of the Revolutionary War: "We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again." It has become a kind of motto for Greene's southern campaign — printed on mugs and plaques, cited in motivational speeches, stripped of the context that makes it interesting.
What Greene was actually doing in that letter was explaining a strategic logic that most of his contemporaries found difficult to accept. He had just lost a battle. The army had retreated. The British held the field. By every conventional measure, April 25 had been a bad day. Congress needed to be reassured. His supporters needed to understand why he had not won.
His explanation was this: the loss of the battle did not mean the loss of the campaign. The British had to hold Camden with a garrison, feed that garrison, supply it, and keep it viable against sustained pressure. He did not have to hold anything. He could retreat, regroup, and apply pressure again. Every day the British held Camden cost them men, money, and political capital they could not replace. Every day he survived cost him far less.
What he did not know on April 27, when he wrote that letter, was that Rawdon was already calculating the same arithmetic and reaching the same conclusion from the other side. Within two weeks, Camden would be burning.
Greene's strategic patience — his willingness to lose battles without losing his sense of the campaign's direction — is the quality historians most admire about the southern campaign. It was not natural to him. He was a competitive man who hated to retreat and disliked losing. The letters from this period show how much effort it took to maintain his equanimity. But he maintained it, and the results justified it.
Sources
Primary & Secondary Sources
General Nathanael Greene to the President of Congress: Battle of Hobkirk's Hill, April 27, 1781
National Archives and Records Administration · PRIMARY · TIER1
Greene's official dispatch on the battle. Characteristically he downplays the defeat while explaining the strategic rationale -- he could afford attrition losses the British could not. Essential primary source.
Historic Camden: Hobkirk's Hill Interpretive Resources
Historic Camden Foundation · INSTITUTIONAL · TIER1
The Historic Camden Foundation interprets both the August 1780 battle and the April 1781 Hobkirk's Hill engagement. Site archaeology has helped identify the American position north of Camden town.
Lord Rawdon to Sir Henry Clinton: Dispatch on Hobkirk's Hill, April 1781
Public Record Office (National Archives, United Kingdom) · PRIMARY · TIER1
Rawdon's report on his surprise sortie from Camden that drove Greene from Hobkirk's Hill. The British account of a rare tactical success that nonetheless accelerated British strategic retreat from Camden.
Pension Applications: Hobkirk's Hill Veterans, 1820s
National Archives and Records Administration · PRIMARY · TIER1
Depositions from veterans present at Hobkirk's Hill, including accounts of the confused American withdrawal and the critical failure of the 1st Maryland Regiment to execute its maneuver under fire.
The Papers of General Nathanael Greene, Vol. VIII: Hobkirk's Hill and Camden
University of North Carolina Press (Dennis M. Conrad, ed.) · PRIMARY · TIER1
The authoritative critical edition of Greene's correspondence covering the Hobkirk's Hill period. Includes letters from subordinate commanders, intelligence reports, and Greene's post-battle assessments.
Hobkirk's Hill -- American Battlefield Trust
American Battlefield Trust · INSTITUTIONAL · TIER2
Battlefield summary and troop movement maps. The Trust has worked on identification and partial preservation of the Hobkirk's Hill battlefield north of modern Camden.
Hobkirk's Hill: Why Greene Was Surprised
South Carolina Historical Magazine · SECONDARY · TIER2
Scholarly article examining the intelligence failure that allowed Rawdon to sortie and catch Greene's army at drill. Uses British intelligence dispatches and American patrol reports to reconstruct the reconnaissance failure.
https://www.battlefields.org/learn/revolutionary-war/battles/hobkirk-hill
www.battlefields.org · SECONDARY · TIER2
Discovered by agentic enrichment for Hobkirk's Hill
https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/hobkirk-hill-blag.htm
www.nps.gov · SECONDARY · TIER2
Discovered by agentic enrichment for Hobkirk's Hill
https://www.scbattlegroundtrust.org/revolutionary-war-gaol-site-acquired-for-permanent-protection
www.scbattlegroundtrust.org · SECONDARY · TIER2
Discovered by agentic enrichment for Hobkirk's Hill
Memoirs of the War in the Southern Department: Hobkirk's Hill
Bradford and Inskeep (Henry Lee) · SECONDARY · TIER2
Lee's account of his Legion's role covering the American withdrawal. Notably candid about the battlefield confusion, particularly the breakdown of the 1st Maryland, which Lee attributed to poor unit placement.
Nathanael Greene: Strategist of the American Revolution
Twayne Publishers (Theodore Thayer) · SECONDARY · TIER2
Standard Greene biography covering Hobkirk's Hill as part of his southern strategy. The analysis of Greene's post-battle thinking -- that he could lose every battle and still win the campaign -- is essential context.
The Road to Guilford Courthouse: Hobkirk's Hill Chapter
John Wiley & Sons (John Buchanan) · SECONDARY · TIER2
Buchanan's campaign narrative provides the best modern synthesis of Hobkirk's Hill, integrating American and British sources. Particularly strong on Rawdon's tactical reasoning in attacking before American reinforcements arrived.
Battle of Hobkirk's Hill -- Wikipedia
Wikipedia · TERTIARY · TIER3
General reference entry covering the battle's course and aftermath. The tactical narrative is accurate in outline; specific details should be verified against Greene's dispatch and the Lee memoirs.
Historic Camden Visitor Guide
Historic Camden Foundation · TERTIARY · TIER3
Visitor guide to the Historic Camden site including information on how to locate the Hobkirk's Hill battlefield north of the reconstructed British post. Useful for site orientation.